Will any of the longest standing records for each game be beaten before the end of 2018?
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ParadoxxicModeratorMay 09 2018 at 7:47 PM ESTPosts: 1571
The summer of 2018 is right around the corner, and for many that means more free time to grind out records. With this in mind. I went through the list of longest standing records and pulled the longest standing record for each game and have speculated as to whether or not I think they'll be beaten before the end of the year. I have not given any weight to how active a certain game is, only whether or not I think its beatable if someone were to put the time into it. Feel free to give your thoughts as well!
(time given for how long a record has been untouched are correct as of writing on May 9th, 2018. Check the oldest records page for the current up to date oldest records.
Scurty captured our minds and our hearts with his beautiful work in the Segmented runs of Halo CE, but perhaps his most primo legacy is this Keyes record. This level is one of the simplest levels in any of the Halo games, and also one of the most storied. Even though people rarely attempt to go for the record on this level I think that this record could be beaten this summer if someone decided to go for it. Especially now that the RNG manipulation for reviving flood has been found. I'm fairly certain 2:20 is possible, and perhaps even 2:19??!!?! Whatever the case, 2:21 is definitely beatable given that the easy record on this level (which is the 2nd oldest Halo CE record) stands at 2:20.
The 2nd youngest record on this list, Halo 2: MCC sees less activity than its classic counterpart owing to the removal of essential speedtricks that draw so many to the folds of the Haloruns community. With that said, the same day that this post was being written a runner by the name of Milkman14 beat the Gravemind Legendary record for H2A which had been held by AndysMountain for over 1000 days. A new influx of H2A runners over the past few weeks such as Nailz and Milkman, along with the H2A granddaddy himself Jervalin may mean that a rash of new H2A records is just on the horizon. To counter however, favourable enemy placement and Sun's superb sniping ability in this record may make it hard to beat. This one is totally up in the air, maybe Nailz will nail it down.
This one has an asterisk beside it because it was actually beaten by one second by Cryphon some time during his reign. However, without a concrete date for when most of Cryphon's records were achieved this record stands on Haloruns as the oldest Halo 2 record. Cryphon proved it was possible to beat this time, but if someone were to go for it it would take a lot of time practicing the pelican bump and getting very good driving with minimal timeloss though the box squeezes. The pelican bump is said to be easier to hit on Halo 2 Vista due to slightly different physics, however one would have to get used to the different driving physics as well if attempting this IL on the Vista version of the game.
Edit: After checking the old bkpaguy archive, the actual oldest record is Delta Halo easy in 2:38 by Cryphon. - 947 days.
The only full driving level in Halo 3, Tsavo Highway is unique compared to the rest of the game. Pokem has said himself in the past that this record is beatable, and indeed since this record was set, newer more optimized versions of the rock climb near the level's end have been found. The challenge of course comes from the fact that since this is Legendary difficulty, the chances of surviving the IL driving path are very low. This level relies heavily on charging straight into the chaos and praying that the enemies are looking the other way. While this IL is theoretically achievable on both the Original Version of the game for the Xbox 360, AND Halo 3 on the Master Chief Collection for the Xbox One, the notorious 'Liftless Bridge' strat in the middle of the level is widely accepted to be easier on the Master Chief Collection. I believe this record could be broken this summer if someone were to put their nose to the grindstone and go for it. That being said, Pokem is still an active Halo runner, and is not known to let go of the Tsavo Highway record easily, so if anyone does go for this record, be prepared for a strong rebuttal.
Halo 3 ODST simultaneously introduced us to a new non-linear campaign progression in a Halo game, and for the first time allowed us to stand in the boots of a UNSC Orbital Drop Shock Trooper name 'The Rookie' (nice one bungie). While 'Prepare to Drop' is technically the name of the game's first cutscene, the very first playable portion of the free roam portion of the game (Mombasa Streets) is treated as an IL up until you first touch the Helmet in the cracked TV screen. The Legendary record for this level has only been beaten three times in the history of Haloruns, with the record being held by the names of ODST greats such as Chappified, Nagato, and...MrBlueCrayon? While the name might not be famous, the simplicity of the level means that it is an easy level to learn for new runners, and an even harder level to get a record in. With that said, Nagato has recently chimed in with his Speedrunner Emeritus status in the ODST discord BEGGING someone to break the 1:50 barrier. The timesave all must come from the first fight with the two waves of enemies that drop. It is most certainly possible, and if someone were to spend the time this summer it could be achieved. Playing this level on the Xbox 360 version makes the enemies slightly more lethargic upon dropping and gives the runner more time to kill all the enemies. There have been some promising new ODST runners that have popped up on the radar recently like SleeplessBlue, will he be the one to dethrone MrBlueCrayon? Only time will tell.
The oldest standing record across all Halo games, New Alexandria has become a notorious example of an haloruns RNG hell-fest. The level is comprised of three main missions and three side missions. With three possibilities for the first main mission, two possibilities for the 2nd, and a single possibility for the last, coupled with a pool of 15 possible side missions, the odds of getting the perfect mission order for this level are 1/648. As a result, good New Alexandria runners have to be able to adapt and play each possible mission quite well, because the odds of getting the perfect mission order are very rare. Long time Reach runner WoLfy actually tied this record in January of this year, but as of yet no one has grinded out enough time to beat it. Legendary Halo 3 runner Sorix has recently picked up Halo Reach runs and managed to get 3rd place on this level in April of this year. The potential exists to beat this level, but this is the first record in this list I believe will not be beaten before the end of 2018, owing to the insane RNG grind this level requires.
The oldest standing Halo 4 record by only one (1!!) day, this may actually be in my opinion the easiest record on this list to beat. Joker referenced this run in his 2016 ADGQ Halo 4 run for being a deathless record, though it does contain some reverts where death may have been imminent (reverts were done for speed purposes and not necessarily in order to avoid death). Halo 4 doesn't have many active runners currently, but If a new Halo 4 runner were to come along I am confident this record could fall within a month. Finding a way to replicate Egg's infamous in-level load speedup could also be the key to cracking not only Halo 4's longest standing record, but every Halo 4 record in general. Maybe if people are interested in a fun summer project they could look at trying to figure out how to do that.
With Halo 5 being the youngest game in the series, it is no surprise that this is the youngest record in this list. Its so young that it doesn't even make it on the 50 oldest records page. Still, with that said, the route for The Breaking still contains one of the very first pressure launches found for the H5 speedrun, as well as the Triple Warden boss fight skip, which was found the very first day of release to the delight of casual players and speedrunners alike. even if new techniques or strategies aren't found this level will probably still see the record drop, and with a game still so new compared to the rest on this list, it seems like new strats or a new record is inevitable. Will that record happen this summer? It could, and just as Ghandi said:
Be the change you want to see in the world. Get those new Haloruns rekkies. - Gandhi
Edited by Paradoxxic on January 09 2019 at 12:52 PM EST
It blows my mind that it's been over 3 years and scurty's 2:21 hasn't been beaten. I obviously haven't kept up with the scene, but are there still enough people grinding Keyes that it even has a chance?
ParadoxxicModeratorMay 25 2018 at 8:09 PM ESTPosts: 1575
I made this video a while back comparing 4 of the top Keyes starts. The description gives the frame differences between them at various points. If someone can find a way to save enough time at the start of the level to get the 30 second volume trigger check, 2:19 easy could be done. Legendary is just tough.
ParadoxxicModeratorJune 19 2018 at 12:52 AM ESTPosts: 1576
Added Sorix's new 4:05 outskirts. Insane to see some of these long standing records fall. Keep it up lads!
ParadoxxicModeratorSeptember 08 2018 at 10:03 PM ESTPosts: 1577
updated with new times! Including Ecliptyk's new breaking record!!!
ParadoxxicModeratorDecember 26 2018 at 2:56 AM ESTPosts: 1578
updated with Scurty's 2:20 Legendary! This might be it. Almost all the listed records have fallen except tsavo highway and halo 4 fullgame
ParadoxxicModeratorJanuary 09 2019 at 12:53 PM ESTPosts: 1579
ProAceJoker beat the halo 4 fullgame time!! Its not in 2018, but that means the only level on this list remaining that hasn't been beaten is Tsavo Highway Legendary.