New Runner - All Advice Appreciated!! Posted by: GuyGalaxy on 1/11/17 9:36PM EST Return to the Message Index Reply
  • avatar GuyGalaxy January 11 2017 at 9:36 PM EST Posts: 6 1
    Hey all!

    I am new here (Thanks to that awesome 420.69 donation mentioning this site at AGDQ).

    I have played all the Halo games up to Halo 4 pretty extensively, and I would love to play any of them up to that point.

    Out of those games, which is the best to start out with? I have an original Xbox, PC, Xbox 360, and Xbox One.

    I appreciate any help you have to bring! Thanks!!!
  • avatar United States Monopoli Admin January 12 2017 at 12:14 AM EST Posts: 14 2
    Your favorite is always going to be the best. If you are into PC gaming, H1 is your best bet. If you want to play on the 360 H2. If you want to play on the Xbox One choose between 3 (mcc) or 4.
  • avatar United States RedMage08 January 12 2017 at 12:16 AM EST Posts: 45 3
    It's all personal preference and what you're willing to put yourself through. I can list my personal Pros/cons for ce h2 and h3 though.

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    • Halo: CE


    • +It's on PC

    • +Has a modded version you can download for practice

    • -Lots of pretty difficult tricks

    • -Library RNG


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    • Halo 2


    • +Sword Tricks

    • -Legendary is actually impossible

    • -Console

    • -RNGhell


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    • Halo 3


    • +Not too many hard tricks until your time is really good

    • +Hammer launches

    • -Console

    • -If you don't learn to appreciate the movement optimizations, you will not enjoy h3 on easy



    This is my thoughts and by no means a comprehensive list of pros/cons. Really just run the game you liked the most and you'll probably like the run. I personally recommend starting on easy even if you do plan to do legendary, to learn tricks and get better at movement,
  • avatar United States NadeshotsCats January 12 2017 at 12:50 AM EST Posts: 32 4
    Seconded on play your favorite. Simply put, picking the easiest/hardest for the sake of doing so won't make you more inclined to play it. If you choose your favorite(s) from the series, you'll be getting a new way to play them and the replayability will be huge. It's very rare in any speedrun community to find someone who didn't really enjoy the game casually stick with the speedrun for very long because they just get bored.
  • avatar GuyGalaxy January 12 2017 at 12:50 AM EST Posts: 6 5
    How hard is CE to get into?

    That one sound the like the best one to start off on (A lot easier than that crazy Halo 2 Legendary shit).

    And is there enough guides and tutorials to get me started on that?

    Thanks for the recommendations!
  • avatar United States NadeshotsCats January 12 2017 at 12:53 AM EST Posts: 32 6
    CE isn't too hard to get into. Halo 2 has a larger learning curve but imo it's the most satisfying and skill-based run (and definitely flashiest with the flies) which is why I gravitated towards it. There's not really an in-depth legendary tutorial for Halo 2, but for Halo CE:

    A bit outdated legendary tutorial

    Recent but not complete legendary tutorial

    Very thorough easy tutorial

    There's also a wiki that people have been editing. Check that out. Link
    Edited by NadeshotsCats on January 12 2017 at 12:56 AM EST
  • avatar United States RedMage08 January 12 2017 at 12:55 AM EST Posts: 45 7
    CE isn't too bad to start, just 4 main tricks, and there are plenty of tutorials. For easy there's a tutorial for the full game:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sLL3cabgME
    Legendary also has some guides, but not a complete one that has new strats. Also if you plan to run, go ahead and join the discord: https://discord.gg/0SlU4lEF6amr8o8h
  • avatar GuyGalaxy January 12 2017 at 1:10 AM EST Posts: 6 8
    Ill be sure to join the discord!

    I am having a hard time picking between CE and Halo 2.

    They are both great games that I love, but from what I see, Halo 2 is REALLY hard to pull off compared to CE.

  • avatar United States RedMage08 January 12 2017 at 9:07 AM EST Posts: 45 9
    If you plan on doing easy it's not so bad. Sword flies are relatively hard to learn but not too hard once you have a rhythm. CE also has a few tricks that'll become muscle memory. If you're deciding between them then deciding between pc/console can be a good idea.
  • avatar United States NadeshotsCats January 12 2017 at 11:03 AM EST Posts: 32 10
    I wouldn't be intimidated because of how hard it is to do well. Don't go into either game with the expectation of immediately being one of the best, just focus on improving at the tricks bit by bit until you're fairly consistent. The way I learned Halo 2 (and I think CE when I ran it) was:

    Easy ILs (individual levels) -> Easy full game runs -> Legendary ILs -> Legendary runs

    Learning easy is almost always the best way to get better faster, because you can focus on the tricks and your movement without worrying too much about dying (I say too much because there can be some... weird deaths in Halo 2 even on easy, and of course the tricks can result in death if failed).

    Halo 2 Legendary is extremely intimidating, I get that and hell, I was there in the past myself. It becomes a matter of how well you can do the tricks, how well you can adapt to situations, and some trial and error. Most of the time, I can see what type of spawn I get in certain sections of the game and know exactly how to play it, but that took a lot of time and practice to be able to do, and I'm still not done learning things about the game. Pretty much any Halo game on legendary is going to be similar where you find what works based on your skill set and your knowledge and that dictates how you'll play. In my opinion, the deaths on CE happen less, but they're usually more aggravating (plasma pistol overcharges or magnum shots straight up missing), whereas the deaths on Halo 2 are way more frequent but you at least see them coming lol.
  • avatar GuyGalaxy January 12 2017 at 12:06 PM EST Posts: 6 11
    Alright, I think that I am going to start on Halo CE.

    Is there a forum post or wiki with downloads like mods that help practice, overlays for twtich, etc?
  • avatar United States RedMage08 January 13 2017 at 12:34 AM EST Posts: 45 12
    There is not, but people can provide these links on the discord, I don't have them personally, but I can look if no one else provides.
  • avatar GuyGalaxy January 13 2017 at 2:18 AM EST Posts: 6 13
    Ill just check out the Discord tomorrow at some point. You guys have already helped me out a lot as it is :) .

    Anyone in particular i should talk to once i get in there ?
  • avatar United States RedMage08 January 13 2017 at 9:29 AM EST Posts: 45 14
    Nah, just ask in the halo 1 channel and people will respond soon enough.
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